The 2020 Lexus GS-F Is a Bad New Car, But a Great Used One

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Doug DeMuro

Πριν 8 μήνες

The 2020 Lexus GS-F isn't great -- but it could be, if you buy it in a few years. Today I'm reviewing the GS-F, and I'm going to show you why it's not so great, and why you'll want to wait to buy one. I'm also showing you all the quirks and features of the GS-F, and I'm going to drive the GS-F to show you what the Lexus GS-F is like on the road.
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The car guy
The car guy Πριν 12 ώρες
You buy the Lexus for the quality, the rest are just toys for little boys and girls and they don't break either.
reign fury
reign fury Πριν 15 ώρες
I love these comments 😂😂😂😂😂
WTDTY Podcast
WTDTY Podcast Πριν ημέρα
Is this car naturally aspirated compared to its competitors? If so, that’s the selling point for longevity. Buying it used is a good consideration. However, given the end of the GS line, it may be difficult finding parts down the road when you reach higher mileage.
arthur Benedetti
arthur Benedetti Πριν ημέρα
lexus, please, touch screen, everyone uses because its good
Jack Abergel
Jack Abergel Πριν ημέρα
Lot of butthurt people
Sean Wiiliams
Sean Wiiliams Πριν 2 ημέρες
Yo doug u violating my car brand and telling lies stop it u should be embarrassed of yourself
K R I S S Πριν 2 ημέρες
Well that thing it’s reliable which it’s the thing that most of people are looking for (including me). Personally i’d choose reliable before technology and all that. Also this car does 0-60 in 4.5 sec which it’s not very bad it’s fast enough for me. The style of car and material used are very nice i like that red interior look very luxury. Def i would buy one but used only the price it’s too high for a new one.
TheYoutuber Πριν 4 ημέρες
0-60 is overrated
TheYoutuber Πριν 4 ημέρες
They will probably never go bellow 40k
Deion Chatman
Deion Chatman Πριν 5 ημέρες
This is a Toyota. This is a car you can give to your children. Don’t play Lexus
Afish040 Πριν 6 ημέρες
I’m sorry but what is up with those dam two piece headlights?!
Isaac Πριν 8 ημέρες
7:40 fuck Mercedes and BMW, that sounds amazing!
Mike B
Mike B Πριν 10 ημέρες
Why dose it have to be the fastest? Its a beast enough for everyday driving and ripping around. Not many people really races all the time. Its built to be a extremely reliable and enjoyable car.
Stoyan Georgiev
Stoyan Georgiev Πριν 12 ημέρες
Doug got it all wrong this time. And yes, the GS- F is a bit behind on latest Navigation gismos and software but the engine is to admire. Sounds great and I am sure that will be FAR more reliable than today's BMW Plastic Turbo junk motors. I drive a 2004 GS 300 and after owning 7 BMW's and 1 Mercedes I can honestly say that the Lexus Cars are far better build than ALL it's competitors. Doug should buy one and see the reality for himself!
Tommyboi T
Tommyboi T Πριν 15 ημέρες
There's no doubt you are bias
Tara Brooks
Tara Brooks Πριν 17 ημέρες
Dear Lexus.... You probably crooked a s the last trick. But.. it does.. have a higher price tag
Tara Brooks
Tara Brooks Πριν 17 ημέρες
Love, AUDI.
Richard Guzzino
Richard Guzzino Πριν 20 ημέρες
find out how to get a free lexus call gia perez phone # 516-883-1392-known as gia fazio wiggle but for a free lexus
Su B
Su B Πριν 23 ημέρες
Because used & new cost same price? Best resale value sedan in the world in this competition
Josh wakawaka
Josh wakawaka Πριν 23 ημέρες
It doesn't matter if you are quicker by 0.1s or even 1s. I love it, I enjoy it, I admire the quality of built, the attention to details, then it becomes my lo ve, same as my wife. I love her though she is not the perfect woman, but she is my perfect woman, I love her subjectively.
I Y Πριν 26 ημέρες
Wouldn't mind getting one but rear seats that don't fold is a big no for me. Not sure why Lexus does it this way
Ben M
Ben M Πριν μήνα
I like Doug, but he relies too much on comparisons and the competition to form his opinion on a car.
Ben M
Ben M Πριν 28 ημέρες
@Dragos Pahontu That's pretty subjective
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 28 ημέρες
Well that makes sense, this car is not as good as an Audi RS6
Braden Sammy
Braden Sammy Πριν μήνα
He obviously just learned the word confounding
Rhishab Dahal
Rhishab Dahal Πριν μήνα
It just could be better
Fa 'Le
Fa 'Le Πριν μήνα
So if noone buys it new, how you going to get it used? 🤨😂
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 28 ημέρες
A few crazy people will like it
KangolwearingMF Πριν μήνα
Do a 1998 gs400 ; versus mercedes and bmw or that era...
KangolwearingMF Πριν μήνα
@2:50 you start talking facts , this guy is a audi and mercedes ower
Mr P
Mr P Πριν μήνα
It must be a Caucasian thing to want engine rev, loud exhaust on EVERY CAR....boy, BUY A MUSCLE CAR. This car is for us that want a perfect “middle”....some speed, some exhaust, some luxury...but complete relatability. Stop rehung the engine, esp from a cold start WEIRDO!....
Alfredo Henriquez
Alfredo Henriquez Πριν μήνα
It's a great car that will last a very long time ... so used is smart. Let someone else pay for the depreciation. That engine is the truth.
Richard Recupero
Richard Recupero Πριν μήνα
It's a beautiful car still.
Ezekiel Morgan
Ezekiel Morgan Πριν μήνα
Doug really be talking like 4.5 second 0-60 is slow and 450-ish horsepower is weak lmao
lagunerolakers Πριν μήνα
Dude you exaggerate about the turn signal and the infotainment use, I have a IS200t and is the same, no problems with either feature. We are smart humans and learn how to use things. Stop it! if any of you guys are looking for one of this, don't let that stop you, not a deal breaker, believe me. Once i switched to an IPhone from a Android, at first it was weird, but got used to it, when you use something all the time, it becomes not an issue, is the learning curve. I am shopping for a slight bigger sedan than my IS, I might just get this one a year older, in 2021 or the gs350 F sport. Thanks Doug, good information but don't trash the infotainment and the turn signals when you do another Lexus model, they're all similar, if tha'ts all that bothers you, Lexus is doing great.
JDM Virgins Media
JDM Virgins Media Πριν μήνα
I disagree. Just because it’s different doesn’t mean you should.
arsh saini
arsh saini Πριν μήνα
And plus in a M5 or C63 or E63 your back will be in a million pieces at the end of a long journey (personal experience as I have owned them) but the F range models (I own a RCF) are just soo much comfortable. People misunderstand the F range cars by Lexus. The F range cars are Fast and a comfortable mile muncher. And I guarantee you, you won't survive a long drive (like 500-600 miles) in a C63 or E63 but you will in a F range Lexus.
arsh saini
arsh saini Πριν μήνα
UMMMMMM reviewed the RCF that has TVD with Slalom mode XD. So that statement is false buddy.
Jonathan Tang
Jonathan Tang Πριν μήνα
only $90k in the United States???!!! I know a guy in Singapore paid nearly USD 360k for the Lexus GS F and it's only good for 10 years!
Mo Πριν μήνα
outdated technology=Reliability!
Wolfgang Barrio
Wolfgang Barrio Πριν μήνα
Thats just true.
Pacadezine Πριν μήνα
Japanese cars always underrated and under appreciated. Upgrade to performance headers and not only will you have a performance beast but longevity.
imafreck123 Πριν μήνα
Dammit doug, now everyone's gonna buy this car used, which means no one will buy the car new, so there's going to be less used Lexus now :(
THHIIISSSSS is the car I'd take as an "adrenaline break" when I used to sell Lexus
Mahdman Πριν μήνα
Well that Lexus will be on the road longer with less issues than an AMG OR M
Dallas Mellsop
Dallas Mellsop Πριν μήνα
I like how people talk crap about this for its performance but for the GTI it doesn't matter lol. The Mazdaspeed 3 had 260hp, IN 2007, in 2022 when the MK8 GTI is out, it will have 240hp
Auto Spree
Auto Spree Πριν μήνα
I really like this car it has less electronic gadgets other cool stuff so it will last long asfk compared to some Germans less feature means more to lexus
dima tchat
dima tchat Πριν μήνα
that infotainment system needs an upgrade but its not that bad I got used to it within the first month
Geo H
Geo H Πριν μήνα
It’s not decent... that is just such a inappropriate use of wording .... for a car like this ...a car doesn’t need to have twin turbo to be super
Кирилл Михалин
Кирилл Михалин Πριν μήνα
The common problem of all Lexuses is well shown by this video as Doug is tall: when youre 190cm or more, youre gonna drive it with your head put in a gate of a sunroof. Very luxorious and comfortable 😆
R. Guardia
R. Guardia Πριν 2 μήνες
The Lexus actually works. German cars are overpriced and built like shit
Don Don
Don Don Πριν 2 μήνες
"It doesn't have much power"................. but it will last a 100 years....................
DeathRowRecords Πριν 2 μήνες
How come lexus/toyota never made a newer model ISF? They stopped at 2014 on the is300's
Anmol Brar
Anmol Brar Πριν 2 μήνες
7:12 I love how it looks
Anmol Brar
Anmol Brar Πριν 2 μήνες
Doug have some serious problems with lexus 🤣🤣
Cooper Πριν 2 μήνες
amgs have the best sounding car in my opinion
Oscar Razi
Oscar Razi Πριν 2 μήνες
Doug you need to drive a stock 2008 ISF. Let me know if that feels soft.
Stephen Cannon
Stephen Cannon Πριν 2 μήνες
That’s funny no smoking signs on the ashtrays. Thanks Doug for helping valuable my 2015 Infiniti Q70L purchase only 47K miles, pretty comparably equipped except for the ?8 but trades the V8 for AWD AND I got the long wheelbase version so about six inches more legroom for rear passengers. Same luxury equipment and possibly more and about 1/4 of the price of a GS-F. To be honest I was looking at a regular GS V6 on My way to the Q70L but couldn’t find a comparably equipped GS for anywhere close to the Q70L adjusted for equipment market and condition. Maybe in a few years the 2020 will be selling cheaper as used. Your not the only one saying that the Toyota/Lexus 8 speed automatic transmissions are weak. The 8 Speed automatic in the Kia Stinger gets good reviews though. Wondering if the KIA model is the ZF which can make European competitors expensive but the ZF works pretty good.
Stephen Cannon
Stephen Cannon Πριν 2 μήνες
See how much you like the gauge cluster when the LCD pixels fail.....out of warranty!!
diablo japan
diablo japan Πριν 2 μήνες
Oww i change my mind. Do not make video anymore in this life
diablo japan
diablo japan Πριν 2 μήνες
Jonny you are not the one to do cars review
Edwin Πριν 2 μήνες
LMAOOO This guy was shitting on this car in the beginning of the video
Yovanni Flores
Yovanni Flores Πριν 2 μήνες
Love this G$-F! One helluva a ride, comfort and sporty. I wouldn't buy new, never been a new car enthusiast but a proper used one. If you have the funds for depreciation than go for it. 🙃
Doctor Morbid
Doctor Morbid Πριν 2 μήνες
"Not all that good"= runs when you start it and doesn't throw check engine lights or timing chains.
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 27 ημέρες
@Doctor Morbid @Doctor Morbid you probably never owned a German car, most people that discard German cars as being reliable have never owned one. If they had problems also other manufacturers regardless of the country. Tell me how much oil did the Toyota 2.4L from 2009-2012 burn? In my country people are not considering these cars, in Germany most people buy German cars.
Doctor Morbid
Doctor Morbid Πριν 28 ημέρες
@Dragos Pahontu Stop it. You don't have one and if you do, then that reveals you have a personality defect that motivated the posting. These are cars, but you look at them as a reflection of yourself and I suggest you need therapy. And dealer service doesn't prevent the turbos from blowing up and destroying the engine as many have documented- even with dealer services, people were getting pitiful rebates from Audi for a poor design that starves the turbos of oil. And you don't seem to understand why people are now seeing Toyotas and yes, Hondas, as better investments than German cars. German cars are what Italian cars once were- termperamental and unfixable after a few years. At the least with Italian cars, there was enough residual value to say repair and restoration was worth it. German cars, no. They have no value after a few years, particularly after the warranty runs out. They are basically all two-year throwaway cars now. Outside of that, you seriously need to look at your life for being so invested in a car. It's simply a car. A tool, but I am guessing you slick back that hair and cruise for the ladies on Friday nights like it's the 70s. Provided your car starts and doesn't throw a check engine light or the sport differential fails.
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 28 ημέρες
@Doctor Morbid my car runs when i start it but i do my maintanance at my local Audi dealer. Maybe if you are buying used and don't care that much for performance but reliability a Honda or Lexus is a good choice.
Doctor Morbid
Doctor Morbid Πριν 28 ημέρες
@Dragos Pahontu Which blows turbos chronically due to those clogging filters which takes the engine out with it, and is horribly unreliable. Let's not get into transmission issues, rear ends, and on and on. Thanks for being a typically fragile male gearhead and ending up proving an opposing point due to it. Not to mention, German cars approach "unrepairable" points within a few years of being sold, as proven by the many channels devoted to trying to save these cars.
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 28 ημέρες
But it's not as good as an Audi RS6
muaythai193 Πριν 2 μήνες
7:39 it's all in the exhaust, that goes for any V8. While there are certainly differences in sound regarding valves, under-/overquare engines, engine mapping, can get a fucking hell of a sound out of any big naturally aspirated V8, doesn't matter which brand. Just found these, easily the best sounding exhausts for Lexus F cars imo: Exhibit I: And those are deep bass true dual no crossover exhausts with mufflers, not that raspy x-pipe straight pipe bullshit.
Ace Πριν 2 μήνες
Doug.. that exhaust sounds great.. it growls without being obnoxious.
Ace Πριν 2 μήνες
This is a car I would absolutely buy new if I was in market for it.
X3RUBIM Πριν 2 μήνες
How can you even design something so ugly without (I assume) not actively trying...
darkestfugue Πριν 2 μήνες
depends how you look at it, it wouldnt bother me that its slower than the rivals because its not exactly slow is it, lexus build engines to last so they dont over tune them and look how beautifully its built, lexus still build a car that lasts and to me that says more to me than zero to 60 times
Black Ice
Black Ice Πριν 2 μήνες
I literally thought all turn signals worked like this 😂
LegendofVII Πριν 2 μήνες
My mercedes has never has problems or broke down, Mercedes is 10x better
LegendofVII Πριν μήνα
@Wolfgang Barrio c300
Wolfgang Barrio
Wolfgang Barrio Πριν μήνα
Which model do you have?
V.C. Πριν 2 μήνες
the eco mode rev dials remind me of the rollsroyce % available power indicator.
Jacob Adkins
Jacob Adkins Πριν 2 μήνες
Careful, Doug. Your German bias is showing.
Patrick Kennedy
Patrick Kennedy Πριν 2 μήνες
I'll bet the 2020 GS will still be alive and kicking 15 years from now with fewer problems
Leroy Brown
Leroy Brown Πριν 2 μήνες
Doug, this is not a good used car. Yes, it's a reliable Lexus, however, the whole point of owning a Lexus is to keep it, not lease it. A high-mileage used car is a high-mileage used car, meaning there will still be some maintenance. Therefore, you can't buy it used with less than say, 30k miles on it. That means you have to spend alotta money on brakes, toe-rods, and other assorted suspension parts to maintain this freeway hotrod, which will likely have been abused by the previous owners. 😕 Also, a good luxury used car is about $35k, meaning the high-mileage vehicles you showcased are overpriced. Just saying. 😁
Sly Πριν 2 μήνες
Toyota, while a great manufacturer, always seems to be the last one to bring in updates.
Sly Πριν 2 μήνες
Oh my god, this car starts at 85k? When I saw him compare this to the E63 and M5 I couldn't believe it.
Niel Barnes
Niel Barnes Πριν 2 μήνες
Lease it
Niel Barnes
Niel Barnes Πριν 2 μήνες
Our 2015 has a power truck with a button to close it
Niel Barnes
Niel Barnes Πριν 2 μήνες
He Didnt point out how it has no digital clock
Bartek Basinski
Bartek Basinski Πριν 2 μήνες
You are so negative about the Lexus. Simply, don't do the reviews if you don't like those cars. New IS 350 F-sport is bad as well. Hell, no. It is just for petrolheads loving great technology. Not some BMWs and Audi's breaking all the time.
fdjw88 Πριν 2 μήνες
new BMW M5, 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds. 80,000 miles later, same BMW M5, 0 to engine explosion in 3.5 seconds.
Bee Kaye
Bee Kaye Πριν 2 μήνες
I just bought a brand new one for $69347 with 13 miles on it yesterday. The sticker was $89049. No dealing at all. I love it
Tony Pullella
Tony Pullella Πριν 2 μήνες
Wow. Sorry man. This was hard to watch. Couldn't make it past 8.5mins.
Jeff Brisson
Jeff Brisson Πριν 2 μήνες
This schmuck really hates Lexus.
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 28 ημέρες
He doesn't hate them, but Audi is better
Terence S
Terence S Πριν 3 μήνες
Majority of the comments seem opposite to your review Doug, that is a beautiful car hands down, tons of power and that exhaust note is awesome 😎 I would own this now as opposed to the equivalent bmw or Mercedes as i have owned 3 bmw’s as they spent as much time at the mechanics as they did at home ! Frustrating and expensive, Japanese = reliability , that is a cool car 👍
scorpiomaj27 Πριν 3 μήνες
It seems like this car is going to suffer from the same performance 'issues' as my GS350. Yeah, 306HP is great, but at over 6,000 RPM?! The lower end and mid range just stink. What good is power if it's not wide enough in the RPM range?
Stan Curry
Stan Curry Πριν 3 μήνες
Weird, why is the redline higher in normal sport than in sport +??
YR Πριν 3 μήνες
I hope everyone has same car problems as Doug. Multimedia is not precise and there is no usb in the back. :D
Roberto RP
Roberto RP Πριν 3 μήνες
movie trailers
Tony Antonio
Tony Antonio Πριν 3 μήνες
I think buying any car new isn’t worth it!
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 28 ημέρες
It is, you have peace in mind
hoangnamcuc honguyentrung offline
hoangnamcuc honguyentrung offline Πριν 3 μήνες
bitch lasagna
JDM Virgins Media
JDM Virgins Media Πριν μήνα
T series ain’t nothing but a bitch lasagna
Jake Joiner
Jake Joiner Πριν 3 μήνες
So sad they are discontinuing the gs F. The last reliable sedan with a V8 in it. If it had updated technology like the ES finally getting car play, I'd get one pretty fast.
John Hancock
John Hancock Πριν 3 μήνες
Doug sounds like a hater full of shit
Dragos Pahontu
Dragos Pahontu Πριν 28 ημέρες
Look it's not as good as an Audi or Mercedes
v van
v van Πριν 3 μήνες
This Guy contradicts himself so much! Its crazy!
G Πριν 3 μήνες
This man knows nothing about what he is talking about. Apparently if it doesn't fit Doug's driving preferences its a shitty car! SMH!
Vijayanand Aski
Vijayanand Aski Πριν 3 μήνες
When doug drives most noticeable are his uncombed hairs
Dean M
Dean M Πριν 3 μήνες
Not as fast as the German brands, but will last longer.
Alexandru Dumitrache
Alexandru Dumitrache Πριν 3 μήνες
"if you leave a window open, it will let you know when you leave! OMG QUIRK QUIRK!" i drive a 20 years old Renault that raises back the windows on it's own when you leave the car
Omar Carnegie
Omar Carnegie Πριν 3 μήνες
We need to see the road when you or driving. Sir up gread you video
MiDnItE SnAcK Πριν 3 μήνες
His full of shit that guy he moans like my ex wife😂
NickoHD Πριν 3 μήνες
This man criticizes every reliable car
Mark Romero
Mark Romero Πριν 3 μήνες
The joke’s on you, Doug. Over the course of my warranty, I’ve eaten at least $20k worth of snacks, cappuccinos, Italian sodas, and fruit at my Lexus dealer.
Mark Romero
Mark Romero Πριν 3 μήνες
I have a 16 GS-F that I bought new. I love it and get lots of compliments from strangers. It’s quick enough for me and the interior is beautiful. I bought it mainly because of Toyota’s reliability. I also have a 2002 Sequoia with 116k miles on it and it’s running strong. I traded my 2006 BMW 530i in for my GS-F. Started having issues with that thing.
Brad Choi
Brad Choi Πριν 3 μήνες
Yes, 0-60 is slower and power is less than the comparable Mercedes or BMW, but how much power do you need to slow down and laugh at the Mercedes or BMW broken down on the side of the road? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Кр Се
Кр Се Πριν 3 μήνες
Quality doug quality is the reason why this car costs so much. Because while your mersedes or bmw or audi are going to be in the diller because they are broken the Lexus will be fine for many years.
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