The Pontiac Solstice Was a Better Miata from General Motors

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Doug DeMuro

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The Pontiac Solstice was a Mazda Miata from General Motors -- except I think it was better. Today I'm reviewing the Solstice GXP to explain what was and what I think about it, and I'm going to take you on a tour of the Solstice. I'm also going to drive the Solstice GXP and show you what the Pontiac Solstice was like on the road.
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JDevPeabody
JDevPeabody Πριν 20 ώρες
Not a Miata, an updated Fiero front driver!
Adam Jacob Adamson
Adam Jacob Adamson Πριν ημέρα
Perhaps you wanna watch Nazz Abdullah's video of 6 failed American car brands. Even though it's too hard for you to speak Malay like him, he explains why Pontiac died. LINK: grpost.info/will/1HuflMxgrIGokqQ/b-nteo
PEZESHKI automobiles
PEZESHKI automobiles Πριν ημέρα
I have driven this car, but in nfs undercover 😁😁😁
vlenhoff
vlenhoff Πριν ημέρα
The answer is always Miata.
Robert Crowder
Robert Crowder Πριν 2 ημέρες
No S2000 love?
Kennedick Peterman
Kennedick Peterman Πριν 2 ημέρες
Imagine if this got LS.
Lucky U. Tin
Lucky U. Tin Πριν 2 ημέρες
Storage or dirt collector?
Lucky U. Tin
Lucky U. Tin Πριν 2 ημέρες
Fiat 124 has a better top. Very easy to operate.
Lucky U. Tin
Lucky U. Tin Πριν 2 ημέρες
Inconsistent. Fake reviewer. Reviews a small car then complains about trunk space. What a buffoon.
51tomtomtom
51tomtomtom Πριν 3 ημέρες
WTF do I need cupholder ? Cant you drink at home ?
Derrick Logan
Derrick Logan Πριν 3 ημέρες
For someone who said that they love the Pontiac Solstice, you seem to give it a rather low rating. Maybe what I think "love" is, IS much different in meaning than yours. I never drove one, but when I was younger, I had hoped to purchase one or the Sky. Well, it is what it is.
Derrick Logan
Derrick Logan Πριν 3 ημέρες
This is a Pontiac that I really liked, including the Saturn Sky!! Beautiful Vehicles!
otto Vonostrovo
otto Vonostrovo Πριν 3 ημέρες
Reliability and dependability Mazda Miata wins every time!!
FalseBroadcast
FalseBroadcast Πριν 3 ημέρες
It just needed to have a v8 option
guitarman430
guitarman430 Πριν 3 ημέρες
R
Patrick Desrosiers
Patrick Desrosiers Πριν 3 ημέρες
My mom used to have one of these in black...I believe hers was a base model
allen schmitz
allen schmitz Πριν 3 ημέρες
I saw one of those last year...first one I ever saw in my life..it was a WTH moment.
Much Wiser
Much Wiser Πριν 4 ημέρες
The other way to tell the GXP from the naturally aspirated ones is the black grilles and surrounds around the parking lights. The normal ones have silver grilles.
John Wilson
John Wilson Πριν 4 ημέρες
Does it use a space-saver spare tire? Will the road wheel fit in the same space in the trunk?
Rich MAC
Rich MAC Πριν 4 ημέρες
It would have been nice if the owner had cleaned the car before letting you review it. My Saturn has 240K miles and it's cleaner than this thing.
nismo2070
nismo2070 Πριν 4 ημέρες
I don't have to get out of my seat to raise or lower the top on my Miata. It unlatches from the front and I can lower it with one hand. I do have to stretch a little to raise it, but it still takes one hand.
nrich51
nrich51 Πριν 4 ημέρες
Gutless standard motor - GM reliabilty - a little too small in critical areas ( interior + trunk ) ... doomed from the start ...
Mark Caldwell
Mark Caldwell Πριν 5 ημέρες
The front fascia were definitely different between the base and GXP.
just another commenter.
just another commenter. Πριν 5 ημέρες
I feel like this car could've been something out of this world if they had put a v10 or something crazy under the hood
acchaladka
acchaladka Πριν 5 ημέρες
Ten years old (and a 20? year old design), and the interior and cupholders still work better than the ND Miata. Sigh. Isn't this one of the most reliable GM engines of all time as well?
firstbaldwin
firstbaldwin Πριν 7 ημέρες
well, since how it is really a corvette with less than 8 cylinders and rounded fenders instead of pointed ones .....it's only natural that it would be better than a miata
Joshua Foster
Joshua Foster Πριν 7 ημέρες
So the Vauxhall VX220 was not a rebadge of the Opel version?
Jack Anderson
Jack Anderson Πριν 7 ημέρες
We have a silver one like Jazz from transformers. Rip lol
Lance Peltier
Lance Peltier Πριν 8 ημέρες
The GXP is obvious from the front. Regular Solstices have chrome grills and GXPs have black.
erich84502ify
erich84502ify Πριν 8 ημέρες
Low power for such a sporty car, Saturn Sky alert
ronch550
ronch550 Πριν 9 ημέρες
8:22 - it says Solstice GXP just in case you get confused and think you're in a Miata.
ronch550
ronch550 Πριν 9 ημέρες
Cupholders - because you just CAN'T ride in your car without having a beverage with you. No you just can't. Really.
Eon plz
Eon plz Πριν 9 ημέρες
2002 jeep is very cool.. write that down!
Brody Harris
Brody Harris Πριν 10 ημέρες
Saturn sky looks so much better...
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
@Brody Harris , they sold more Solstice than Sky. Case dismissed.
Brody Harris
Brody Harris Πριν 8 ημέρες
@Ed Straker Absolutely not wrong. I think the Saturn sky is mucho sex. The Pontiac is incredibly bulbous...
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
Wrong!
Le Oben
Le Oben Πριν 10 ημέρες
More Road Junk and happier Junk yards for fools. Not worth the money or tuning stress, I have enough women like that😒😒
QuestionReality
QuestionReality Πριν 11 ημέρες
You couldn't take 10 minutes and clean up that area on the trunk/roof lid, yellow panel on the interior and gauges? Wow. Could do so much better to present such a cool car.
Keith McIntyre
Keith McIntyre Πριν 11 ημέρες
It's a rebadged Opel. Saturn and Vauxhall also had rebadged versions....Doug is an idiot, he could do just a little research and find this out.
Melanie faulkner
Melanie faulkner Πριν 12 ημέρες
I had this car in navy blue. I had the automatic GXP. Fun car, great gas mileage. I loved it CA where there wasn't much rain. When we moved to TN the roads were fun, the rain was not. So I sold it.
Jose Bernal
Jose Bernal Πριν 12 ημέρες
Ah man. TY. I actually asked you to do a bit on the Saturn Sky, but this is close enough. 🙏🏼
samuel lopes
samuel lopes Πριν 12 ημέρες
if the top isn't electric what is that big hump in the trunk?
samuel lopes
samuel lopes Πριν 8 ημέρες
@Ed Straker dam, that's weird.
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
The gas tank. Seriously.
Elisa and Greg Iles-Sabol
Elisa and Greg Iles-Sabol Πριν 13 ημέρες
Forget about it.....Get a Honda S2000.....it blows away both the Miata and the Solstice....and it's value goes up....not down!!
Edward Thurston
Edward Thurston Πριν 13 ημέρες
I always thought this car looked like a bar of soap
JB91710
JB91710 Πριν 13 ημέρες
2008 Corvette steering wheel so it can't be all that bad! I saw better inner door panels on trucks in the 60's.
Mister Lackey
Mister Lackey Πριν 14 ημέρες
I bought an '06 Solstice in '08, with 15k miles on it. It had some problems due to GM bean counters doing their best to kill their customers and their own company, but I straightened 'em out. Between me, my daughter and son, we've put 170k miles on it, driving throughout the southeast US. My son still drives it, and has the top down every moment he can. We all love it. The Solstice was and remains the best "driver" I've ever encountered, quirks and all.
Pickle Supply Company Yep!
Pickle Supply Company Yep! Πριν 14 ημέρες
Build quality was super terrible, which is unfortunate. GM sorta gave up on this, but I think they could have built a better car and bought a priceless amount of political capital/customer loyalty.
John McCague
John McCague Πριν 14 ημέρες
Junk
Farms Grace
Farms Grace Πριν 15 ημέρες
I wanted a dodge razor, but all I ever saw was the Chrysler crossfire.
Jason Williams
Jason Williams Πριν 15 ημέρες
I love me a great Pontiac. But I find the saturn sky was the better looker.
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
Wrong!
IRMacGuyver
IRMacGuyver Πριν 15 ημέρες
I could never stand the look of the Solstice. The waste line is too high. It looks frumpy.
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
Wrong!
tekarts
tekarts Πριν 15 ημέρες
GXP = black front grille. NA = silver grille. Wash the car you noob!
minicollective.org
minicollective.org Πριν 15 ημέρες
this car was originally released in the UK as a Vauxhall VX Lightning
Ted Harvick
Ted Harvick Πριν 15 ημέρες
I like the looks of the Sky over the Solstice. Would have loved to see a turbo version of the Fiero's 2.8L V6 in it. I had a 86, and loved the exhaust note.
Neil .Connolly
Neil .Connolly Πριν 17 ημέρες
You cant wash the car first??? All the grime detracts from the narrative
Shawn Raymond
Shawn Raymond Πριν 18 ημέρες
This family of cars was conceived ...Dec. 1986
Simon
Simon Πριν 19 ημέρες
Small correction.. there’s one more way to distinguish the gxp on the exterior: the front grille. There’s a tiny extra little grille way on the bottom and also there are extra vents by each of the blinkers which deliver air to the brakes.
John Allen
John Allen Πριν 19 ημέρες
If I had an unlimited budget for an unnecessary car, I'd get the Saturn Sky version of this and (somehow) convert it to a coupe (only the solstice came as a coupe). Then I'd get a better transmission and mount it in the rear, like a corvette. I'd either build the turbo 2.0 or swap in a newer 2.7 turbo 4-banger. I know what you're thinking, "Just swap in an entire corvette drivetrain, or better yet, just buy a corvette." And to that I reply "Go jump in a lake. I'll waste my money however I want."
Vaibhav Kumar
Vaibhav Kumar Πριν 19 ημέρες
Jazzzzzz autobotttt
Tom Brown
Tom Brown Πριν 20 ημέρες
My wife had a GXP. One big quark that Doug failed to pick up on was the battery was located on the passenger side tucked down low. Great for the CG but required removing the lower quarter panel behind the front tire to change the battery. Additionally, the car had no spare tire but did come with a can of fix-a-flat and a battery operated air pump. A fun car overall. We hated to part with it.
hack daniels
hack daniels Πριν 20 ημέρες
Of course, the very best General Motors sports car is the Vauxhall VX220.
hack daniels
hack daniels Πριν ημέρα
@Dono You're going to say 'Corvette', aren't you? That's a category error.
Dono
Dono Πριν 15 ημέρες
The best? Not even close.
hack daniels
hack daniels Πριν 20 ημέρες
So you have to get out of the car, open the 'trunk', undo three clips etc etc etc to get the roof on and off? Sorry, no.
Nanna Goop
Nanna Goop Πριν 21 ημέρα
It's not a GM Miata, it's a US available Opel GT. GM owned Opel and produced this for the US that's the only reason we were blessed with the KAPPA
Marc Lacasse
Marc Lacasse Πριν 21 ημέρα
This car is just one of many sad examples of what went wrong with the American car industry.
Joseph Paul
Joseph Paul Πριν 22 ημέρες
Could have at least cleaned the car first
progressive gen x'er channel
progressive gen x'er channel Πριν 22 ημέρες
Got an ad every 3 minutes...lol
John Heckman
John Heckman Πριν 22 ημέρες
What about the much more rare Solstice GXP coupe??
PTT Cliff
PTT Cliff Πριν 22 ημέρες
If it wasn't for the great depression , GM would be cranking out really good Vehicles with ground breaking tech.
John Werner
John Werner Πριν 23 ημέρες
So what's wrong with GM if they can make a better roadster yet Mazda is still selling theirs about two decades + on?
Luis Hernandez
Luis Hernandez Πριν 23 ημέρες
4:03 10 Points to the Filthy Dog Score
cyberfrank 2010
cyberfrank 2010 Πριν 23 ημέρες
it should come back again, but with a more retro look, like the old curvy ferraris. just like mazda, it s a long term plan, it gets very cheap to produce the same model unchanged, over 20+ years. if it s done right, it ages very well, I d still crave for a 55 chevy coupe, but with modern mechanics. the curves are still quite appealing to me, like for the mini or vw bug and the van, it s just timeless as looks go. as it is, I like the s 2000 way more, I guess I will always love this car. good show Doug!!!
G. SPEED
G. SPEED Πριν 25 ημέρες
pfffft it will NEVER be better than any miata....hell i doubt its even as good as one of the old Mazda Autozams
Eric Daniels
Eric Daniels Πριν 25 ημέρες
No, it wasn't better. Exterior styling? Yes, GM hits it out of the park. Interior? Poor. Handling? OK, but not Miata. From someone who has owned a Miata, and used to build the Solstice.
Stefan Stefan
Stefan Stefan Πριν 25 ημέρες
🤔🤔🤔 Doug! What about the last Naturally Aspirated V8 SLK55 AMG!?!?!? 🤔🤔🤔
Mark Painter
Mark Painter Πριν 26 ημέρες
I bought an '07 GXP new in Spring 2008. Sold it in '16 and regret the decision. It was beginning to exhibit some weird drivability issues and was using some oil and I was afraid it would end up sticking me with costly repairs. Supportive seats, but otherwise horridly cheapo interior. Ugly, scratchy, hard plastic everywhere. Top never sealed well and moisture would creep into the cabin and perpetually fog up the windshield on rainy days. Engine sounded pretty crappy. It was such a good looking car though and really fun to drive on twisty backroads. In retrospect, it was worth keeping for the long haul.
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HDnatureTV: Relaxing Music & Nature Sounds Videos Πριν 27 ημέρες
LOL - the Miata kicked it's ass. You are so wrong! :-(. Why do you like losers?! Why would I sell my car if you think the Solstice was better than the Miata?! You would probably like the Fiero over the Honda Prelude, Mazda XR-7, etc.... both outsold the pathetic Fiero and Solstice - pathetic cars - low quality, low sales, etc... lame car.
superluig164
superluig164 Πριν 27 ημέρες
The Saturn, Opel, and Daewoo versions all look better. Sorry Pontiac.
superluig164
superluig164 Πριν 8 ημέρες
@Ed Straker no u
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
Wrong!
Joel pierce
Joel pierce Πριν 27 ημέρες
This car must live outside. It’s quite dirty.
William Fenton
William Fenton Πριν 27 ημέρες
in UK GMs Vauxhall VX220. is a rebadged Lotus Elise
In Cognito
In Cognito Πριν 28 ημέρες
I hope you took the car to the car-wash to get it detailed for them letting you use it....cause it be filthy
Keith Bruner
Keith Bruner Πριν 28 ημέρες
I remember seeing a Pontiac Solstice parked in front of a Blockbuster Video when it was first released. I had no idea that Pontiac and Blockbuster would both be bankrupt a decade later.
takz07
takz07 Πριν 29 ημέρες
Nope. The fact that Miatas are still selling while this isn't is sufficient proof.
John Poyser
John Poyser Πριν 29 ημέρες
I really loved the Solstice when it came out ....
dave runner
dave runner Πριν 29 ημέρες
Ill stick with my BMW Z4.....
Craig Bartley
Craig Bartley Πριν 29 ημέρες
Yep, the high sales numbers, the longevity of the model, and the storied racing legacy attest to its true status as a Miata killer.
Bondedwithpotatoes007
Bondedwithpotatoes007 Πριν 29 ημέρες
Front Bumper on the GXP is also a bit different.
john mason
john mason Πριν 29 ημέρες
I dont know if this is a fact but i'm sure i heard that the Opel / Vauxhall euro versions shared the chassis from a Lotus of the same era which would be worth checking out, as if it does then that would be a be plus! GM owned Lotus then,i believe but i've not checked any of this so i'm not sure its just useless information i some how heard along the way.
Mattia Zanni
Mattia Zanni Πριν μήνα
9:45 it's more than 3 cup holders crowd🤣😂hahaa
Rachel Black
Rachel Black Πριν μήνα
Normally in the comments section, there are lots of people saying, "Hey, this is what I drive, and I just love it...!" and they go on for a full paragraph or two. But the Pontiac Solstice? Hardly a blip. And the few on here that say they have it-- say almost nothing. Humm. Quite telling. I've had an older Miata before which was a bullet-proof car, and I love the looks of the Solstice, but the Miata was my daily driver and did a fine job of it, but as someone else said, what made GM think that they could design a soft-top car that takes up the entire trunk space when it's down???? With my '95 Miata I lost ZERO trunk space with the top down (and the trunk was very reasonably roomy for a car that size). To me, that design feature alone would be a deal-breaker. Also, on the Miata you could put a luggage rack on the trunk lid if desired, on the Solstice that wasn't possible. Truly form-over-function, which I'm all for, but there comes a point were it goes too far, and the Solstice crossed that line, at least a couple of times.
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
Well I still have my 2007 gxp and just love driving it. Mine is in great condition with 45,000 miles on it. I just don't know how I'm going to cope when something eventually happens to it.
HarryBalszak
HarryBalszak Πριν μήνα
My aunt owned a Solstice. After 3 turbo failures, she was able to return it under the Lemon Law. What did she buy to replace it? A Saturn Sky.
Kurt Keiser
Kurt Keiser Πριν μήνα
Every guy I know calls the Miata a chicks car. haha. I think this is cooler!
lo1bo2
lo1bo2 Πριν μήνα
1:38 The Trans Am is a Firebird, not a separate model.
demonic477
demonic477 Πριν μήνα
I had all but forgotten about the solstice I had planed on building one of these when the prices came down. the cheapest one I found is $4.500 bucks and there just the right size for a real sport car build . like a 5.3 litre LS built and destroked to 5.0 with a nice little turbo and a 5 speed manual trans add in a ford 9in with a spool and you would have a weapon that can take out the new Corvette with ease . the sad part is while waiting for the prices to come down I have become totally disabled and unable to build one. I guess it's up to the younger motor heads to build one now .
rickbangkok
rickbangkok Πριν μήνα
Please Doug. Fiero? Don't do me like that! Peace, out ...
Riddem79
Riddem79 Πριν μήνα
You forgot about Spain. They used the Pontiac Solstice GXP and called it the Tauro V8 Spider.
Ross
Ross Πριν μήνα
You forgot the Vauxhall VX220 the version sold in the United Kingdom.
skenney41
skenney41 Πριν μήνα
Shart Cat
OmegaCouchPotatoe
OmegaCouchPotatoe Πριν μήνα
If only GM had a Heart , Courage and a Brain but we are expected to take the garbage they dump on us , : (
G Hart
G Hart Πριν μήνα
almost bought one but you have to remove the fender to change the battery 🙄
Ed Straker
Ed Straker Πριν 8 ημέρες
Yeah, my battery finally died after 12 years and it was a pain removing the panel. But it's pretty straight forward once you get started.
Robert B
Robert B Πριν μήνα
Fair Enough
Marcello Mori
Marcello Mori Πριν μήνα
Pontiac Solstice GXP was crazy
Benji Miller
Benji Miller Πριν μήνα
One of my favorite vehicles to ever come from GM. It was breath of fresh air in the soulless era of the 2000s.
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