The Pontiac Solstice Was a Better Miata from General Motors

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Doug DeMuro

Πριν 5 μήνες

The Pontiac Solstice was a Mazda Miata from General Motors -- except I think it was better. Today I'm reviewing the Solstice GXP to explain what was and what I think about it, and I'm going to take you on a tour of the Solstice. I'm also going to drive the Solstice GXP and show you what the Pontiac Solstice was like on the road.
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My New Life
My New Life Πριν 15 ώρες
David Meier
David Meier Πριν 20 ώρες
Always loved the looks of this car, but the GM badge is off-putting.
Gun Monkey
Gun Monkey Πριν 2 ημέρες
There are other reasons that people preferred the Miata. Pontiac is the same stellar company that brought you the Fiero and that is not going to help your brand. Also, in that line, maintenance (though the Miata never needed much) for the Miata would be cheaper and needed less frequently. Moreover, the Miata’s size made it more fun to drive, though quite scary when passing a 18 wheeler knowing you could literally be sucked under it.
Jeremy G
Jeremy G Πριν 2 ημέρες
I have a 2009 Solstice GXP Coupe #339 for sale if anyone is interested. Only 1266 coupes made before they shut down Pontiac. Mine is white with a painted blue strip on it. Message me for info. (Today's Date 1.18.21)
Adam Matis
Adam Matis Πριν 4 ημέρες
This is legit my wife's dream car. She had posters of it in high school.
noraneko nekomatagi
noraneko nekomatagi Πριν 4 ημέρες
15:50 SHA❤CAT
New World Disorder
New World Disorder Πριν 5 ημέρες
Bring back Pontiac!
S J Πριν 5 ημέρες
I only watch this video for the voice crack at 3:16
1994 Honda Civic GLi
1994 Honda Civic GLi Πριν 5 ημέρες
...And Jeremy Clarkson hates it.
Cynical Sayonara
Cynical Sayonara Πριν 5 ημέρες
I remember when this car came out. It was so damn girly looking. Bought another Trans Am and forgot about this “gay best friend” car.
Rogred Πριν 7 ημέρες
Why would you let someone review your car when it's this dirty?
HaloFan Πριν 7 ημέρες
“Want a piece of me!?” “I’ll take two!”
Brad Wolf
Brad Wolf Πριν 8 ημέρες
Yellow is in. - Eugene Kwok
fastyguy99 Πριν 8 ημέρες
Doug, wash the man's car, np to send you coins for next time...
gmhummerh2 Πριν 9 ημέρες
It's not a MIATA. Stop saying that, please!
big spicy wiener
big spicy wiener Πριν 9 ημέρες
Saturn Sky > Pontiac Solstice Fight me
yoav shavit
yoav shavit Πριν 12 ημέρες
I’ve seen just about all of your videos and this is one of my favorites! Keep on the enthusiasm about cars! I enjoy every second of it
Zedament Πριν 13 ημέρες
I own a Saturn Sky. I am pretty happy with it. I'm glad you gave it such a good review.
nostickpeople Πριν 16 ημέρες
The scion Skye was a better version. Had a Honda v6 and no nasty retro grill
No Name
No Name Πριν ημέρα
I hope you're joking
NYOB0001 Πριν 17 ημέρες
I also prefer the Saturn version.
jnicholsonjr Πριν 18 ημέρες
My friend had this exact car in GXP trim, and myself a NC miata in GT trim... We both preferred the Mazda for its refinement, character, and practicality. The fun we had with the solstice was related to its speed and the fact that its a head turner driving slow on a local strip. The GXP was less exciting to drive despite its straight line speed, and at times felt cheezy, under engineered (parts bin heavy, limited chassis design/suspension testing) and as a result the end product feels rushed. You buy this car for the look. I know the GM engineer in charge of translating the concept to production, and I can assure you the achievement with the solstice was bringing concept car styling from sketch to showroom through a bureaucracy like old GM. Some really innovative panel shaping techniques were invented for this project also. It's a shame the volt didn't have the same luck in translating from concept to production and now GM has to learn the hard way, by stick from Elon Musk. It would have been nice to see a second generation solstice GXP but GM's north star is to lose its way over and over.
Ko Lay
Ko Lay Πριν 18 ημέρες
Dough Mario in every video be like:Thisss...
Skyler Lucky
Skyler Lucky Πριν 18 ημέρες
Hummm, is this a Canada car gauge was in kilometers per hour
Skyler Lucky
Skyler Lucky Πριν 18 ημέρες
You compare it to a Miata, a Miata is like Chuck steak, and the GM roadster is Porterhouse. No comparison. That’s like saying a Porsche Cayenne is like a Ford Explorer .
Skyler Lucky
Skyler Lucky Πριν 18 ημέρες
I love my Saturn Sky Redline better, it is my baby Vette, Miata doesn’t hold a candle to my Sky factory coil overs spaceframe. It’s my baby Vette. Most people have no clue what it is. And some think its a Vette, it only has 42,000ish miles
Adam Newlan
Adam Newlan Πριν 20 ημέρες
I think there wasa Holden version in Australia for a very short time
No Name
No Name Πριν ημέρα
you're thinking about the tigra
El Rafa
El Rafa Πριν 21 ημέρα
Miata is a Grrrlls car
biochem70 Πριν 21 ημέρα
$10k? The same era Miatas, 350z convertibles and even my BMW Z4 are going for half that now.
Jose Rivera
Jose Rivera Πριν 22 ημέρες
I just love early 2000’s cheap GM plastic.
Panah Πριν 22 ημέρες
Fantastic aesthetic, unfortunately the plethora of malfunctions and issues would lead me to pass it as a car to own personally. I'd rather not be turned into another statistic due to the cars faulty Ignition locking system.
Padraic McDonnell
Padraic McDonnell Πριν 23 ημέρες
Bob Lutz ordered the first prototype made and Franz von Holzhausen designed it.
Jackson Πριν 23 ημέρες
Angel Alejo
Angel Alejo Πριν 23 ημέρες
Got this recommended after watching Adam Lz LS swap his moms car
PhoenixUltraMotive Πριν 23 ημέρες
Impossible. Nothing can be better than Miata
Raeshon Hernandez
Raeshon Hernandez Πριν 23 ημέρες
Who is here after Adam Lz LS swap his mom own😂
George Harley Rider
George Harley Rider Πριν 24 ημέρες
General motors should make another two seater to compete with the Mazda Miata.
James Barros
James Barros Πριν 24 ημέρες
Oh... compared to an NC.... it all makes sense now.
Tendra Delrissian
Tendra Delrissian Πριν 24 ημέρες
All drivetrain and major mechanical parts are off the shelf GM items used in a variety of vehicles. The LNF engine has been upgraded by a couple generations, and the new version (LDK) bolts in with little modification. Transmission is just an Aisin (either auto or manual), used everywhere. The rear diff is a Caddy mechanical limited slip. Replacement sheet metal is a problem, and don't bend the frame. LOL As long as you don't actually wreck the car, there should be no reason you can't keep it running for a very long time. That being said, I have enough spare parts to practically build another one, including a spare engine.......
Charles M Rinehart
Charles M Rinehart Πριν 24 ημέρες
Good luck finding parts for any Solstice.
Ed Baker
Ed Baker Πριν 24 ημέρες
They should have rebranded it and kept it going after they shut down Pontiac.
Tendra Delrissian
Tendra Delrissian Πριν 24 ημέρες
Doug: GM offered a GMPP dealer installed tune for the Pontiac GXP and Saturn Redline. For about an extra $1,000: The car's power was turned up to 290 HP and 340 lbs of torque. That extra 80 lbs of torque turned these into real little rockets. I have the Sky Redline version. Mine has the GMPP tune plus a couple additional mods, now running approximately 350 HP and 400 lbs of torque. In my humble opinion, the Kappa platform was one of the greatest designs that GM every came up with, and then they kicked it to the curb. They should have kept the platform and moved it to a different division, instead of just tossing it. This is a full boxed frame, with the Body welded-glued to the frame, and true independent suspension with coil over shocks. GM also offered an "off road" suspension upgrade that lowered the car another 1/2 inch and stiffened up the ride even more, which I also have installed on my car. Even the body panels were innovative, they were manufactured via hydro-forming instead of stamping. I am sure you can find someone in CA with one of these tuned up, there are plenty of aftermarket tuners running the power up as well: You will be amazed how well they run with the bigger power.
Slays Media
Slays Media Πριν 24 ημέρες
Swap an LV3 4.3 v6 into this and it becomes a lighter, faster, and better handling car with improved fuel economy.
Christopher R.
Christopher R. Πριν 25 ημέρες
Likes GM product better than Miata. /looks up to see who the author was again.... Huh.
derwin gaming
derwin gaming Πριν 25 ημέρες
miata is better, take it back 😡
hondagang59 Πριν 26 ημέρες
I'm looking at getting one are they safe in a car crash
armando chirino
armando chirino Πριν 27 ημέρες
There’s a supercharged solstice nearby with only 35k miles...
zoiks 66
zoiks 66 Πριν 29 ημέρες
I owned a black 2007 Solstice GXP I bought brand new. It was a great car. Very fun to drive, and I only had to have a few minor repairs done. I owned the car for 10 years. After an optional GM performance upgrade that cost $750 along with a couple other minor aftermarket upgrades, the car did 0-60 mph in under 5 seconds.
Rui Cameira
Rui Cameira Πριν μήνα
a better miata, so they filled for bakruptcy after making the best car in the world, if you never drove a manual how can you say that, bi-turbo ,one cylinder miata wankel engine is worse than this ......what?i doubt it ,one of the best cars in the world and can be tuned till 300 h.p. a second fiero wanna be
Rowan Cucanic
Rowan Cucanic Πριν μήνα
Me: **sees title** “nononononono”
Rads BossCraft
Rads BossCraft Πριν μήνα
honestly if i had to choose i might pick this over a Miata as i find the Miata a bit of a boring pick and i like more unique cars.
Chris Wilson
Chris Wilson Πριν μήνα
"Better than the miata" oh no Doug, the JDM dorks and weaboos are gonna be mad at you.
James Raymond
James Raymond Πριν μήνα
When did Billy on the Street start reviewing cars??
Ray Gun
Ray Gun Πριν μήνα
My neighbour has one of these in dark blue, and I’ve always thought it was the ugliest, beady eyed little bug I’ve ever seen.
Colin DuBord
Colin DuBord Πριν μήνα
I love my Solstice GXP! I recommend to try one before getting a MX-5.
Funky' Furballs
Funky' Furballs Πριν μήνα
Taller and wider than the Miata and S2000, it seemed to be in a unique size class.
AngPur Πριν μήνα
They're never bringing this back. They rebadged it as a saturn for a short while, but the plant they made this was left to languish for yeeeeears... Then they tore it down and a new amazon warehouse is going up in it's place.
Mark Cam
Mark Cam Πριν μήνα
Hmmmm Now wait a minute there mister .... The car does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and you give it just a (5) out of 10 .... For a $10,000 car that is very fast ....
Robert Wilhelm
Robert Wilhelm Πριν μήνα
Please don't compare this disgusting humonculous to a miata
Skate Raptor 1
Skate Raptor 1 Πριν μήνα
You guys gotta start learning to be more open minded about the doug scores lmao
Danger Dave
Danger Dave Πριν μήνα
The Solstice is the female of the Kappa cars, especially that bright yellow color. And it's disgustingly dirty.(you would think the owner could have cleaned it up a bit for Doug's review). I'll take my black sky redline tyvm... Some simple bolt on's, a water/meth kit and a tune via HP tuners gets me 330 whp and some serious smiles. : )
Everyone: Da-e-woo Doug: Dae-wooooo
Tom Spaulding
Tom Spaulding Πριν μήνα
Actually I thought the Saturn Sky looked better
E. S.
E. S. Πριν μήνα
No other way to tell GXP and base apart, oh only the different front fascia.
TriPyramid Pictures
TriPyramid Pictures Πριν μήνα
Steve Keithley
Steve Keithley Πριν μήνα
That's 2 points higher than your score for the Fiata you did. The antenae looks like it would be real intrusive for the passenger , like inches away from the door. All the raving you did about it while testing surprised me with your final score. I own three Corvettes 82, 96 and 2003 and they all have hoods that open forward.
NF 14
NF 14 Πριν μήνα
I definitely prefer its sister Saturn Sky's aesthetic but it still is a nice car
죠르노버터링 Πριν μήνα
I hope it will resurrect as a Pontiac electric vehicle brand.
Nicholas Bolton
Nicholas Bolton Πριν μήνα
7:05 how to keep your passenger's leg away so you can shift into 5th gear 😂
John Branco
John Branco Πριν μήνα
Maximum Bob Lutz dream child. In 2009, they were selling them brand new for $21K. Almost pulled the trigger but bought a Crossfire instead which was also on he chopping block.
Victor Martinez
Victor Martinez Πριν μήνα
The skyy was a gorgeous vehicle. I'd like to own one
ariel estrada
ariel estrada Πριν μήνα
This car reminds me of Driver San Francisco so much, it was fun to drive when escaping from the cops.
Mark Evans
Mark Evans Πριν μήνα
Unfortunately, they fall apart
Joseph Peoples
Joseph Peoples Πριν μήνα
If you've ever seen the first Transformers movie from 2007, you'll most likely see this car in the movie as one of the transforming vehicles.
I thought Pontiac was dead.
CΣΠTURIΩΠ Πριν ημέρα
@No Name ah I see
No Name
No Name Πριν ημέρα
the car was built in 2007 but pontiac continued building cars until 2010
Guillermo Ortiz
Guillermo Ortiz Πριν μήνα
It's very annoying to hear you compare it to a Miata so many times
Soda Block
Soda Block Πριν μήνα
better miata... until its wheels fall off
StayWildGaming l
StayWildGaming l Πριν μήνα
Is the license plate Sha ❤️ cat? Or shart cat? 🤔
StayWildGaming l
StayWildGaming l Πριν μήνα
Pozda Miontac
Larry Jepeal
Larry Jepeal Πριν μήνα
3000lbs 260hp vs 2100lbs 170hp pretty close
Tom Wilson
Tom Wilson Πριν μήνα
wasn't the Cadillac xlr also based on this platform
Alan Πριν μήνα
The cobalt ss also used this engine
Alan Πριν μήνα
@Bruce Beauvais the later Gen SS is turbo as was the redline. However the first gen SS was supercharged
Bruce Beauvais
Bruce Beauvais Πριν μήνα
Wasn’t the Cobalt SS supercharged as was the Ion Redline? This car and it’s Sky equivelent are turbocharged.
Lone Druid98
Lone Druid98 Πριν μήνα
I can feel the Winter Solstice approaching❄️☃️🌬
Aaron Balchand
Aaron Balchand Πριν μήνα
C u r v e s
Guru4hire Πριν μήνα
The best part of the solstice/sky journey was the dealer installed option for another 30 hp for a total of 290 and obscene amounts of torque. "Whoops our bad guys we left some power on the table, just bring it back in and toss us a few hundred bucks and we will hook you up."
Mike Penske
Mike Penske Πριν μήνα
Better Miata? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Adam Otlewski
Adam Otlewski Πριν μήνα
When I take my Pontiac Solstice for a weekend trip with the top down, we put our weekender bags in the storage flaps on the front of the seats
James R Peet
James R Peet Πριν μήνα
Is the Saturn Sky the same car?
No Name
No Name Πριν ημέρα
St. M
St. M Πριν μήνα
Ah yes, the Bob Ross of Car Reviews.... Beat the Doug score out of it
ssbrosking36 Πριν μήνα
I always wanted one of those. Saturn Sky was cool too.
Day Gamer
Day Gamer Πριν μήνα
I have owned a 2006 solstice, silver with 5sp trans, with 58k miles on it. for a bit over 5 years now. It has been fun and trouble free the whe time. Only complaint: 2 seats, 3 cup holders, but no ash tray. Great car.
CTen2 Πριν μήνα
I’ve always loved the solstice, when I was a young child on my scooter I used to imagine while I was riding my scooter I was driving a red Pontiac solstice
Kyle Nichol
Kyle Nichol Πριν μήνα
That car is a mess...borderline gross.
charmerci Πριν 2 μήνες
I love that the mandated 3rd brake light was slightly lower than the regular ones! LOL (Higher ones at driver's level makes the light more visible to drivers behind reducing the likelihood of rear end crashes.)
Brian Haarmann
Brian Haarmann Πριν 2 μήνες
Have you found a Saturn Sky Redline to review? I'd love to see your review on the sister car to the solstice, OR the even more rare Solstice Coupe` hardtop
davix 2301
davix 2301 Πριν 2 μήνες
You mean a wayyyyyyyy uglier miata
Randy Kumpf
Randy Kumpf Πριν 2 μήνες
Then there's the Saturn Sky, same car but ten times better looking
nissan gt-r
nissan gt-r Πριν 2 μήνες
Actually, there is the 5. Version of the solstice. And its called the Vauxhall VX220.
Gregory Freeman
Gregory Freeman Πριν 2 μήνες
So where a S2000 fall compared to Miata and Solstice 😆
tsirkucp Πριν 2 μήνες
hey doug i have a del sol in alaska so you cant test mine but i would love you do one on the del bro. since i saw chris lift the miata top off....maybe you could use his........
TheLobstersoup Πριν 2 μήνες
American cars are always designed around the cupholders, first. Designers often fight for weeks over how many cupholders the car should have. Once that is decided it's all about how big they can make the grille and exhaust.
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